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Approachability on dA by MintVerdant Approachability on dA by MintVerdant
A deviant who actively strives to improve his or her artistic ability contacts another deviant for advice. That deviant has a large number of favorites in his or her works, pageviews on his or her main webpage, and other deviants on his or her watchlist. Clearly, he or she appears well established and well renowned in dA.

Should the large number of favorites, pageviews, and watches of the famous deviant negatively impact the striving deviant's ability to seek advice from him or her?

Only you can answer the above question. Hopefully, this stamp will guide you to one.

Done in Adobe Photoshop and ImageReady.
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:iconanimallover22:
This is so amazing! This states exactly how many deviants feel scared to ask what they consider 'top artists' questions or ask for help. I not one who is good at stamps or can do them at all for that matter, but I really think the words or very clear, move smoothly, are appealing to the eye, and very legible. I think this will become very popular around the deviantART community. This will make a be impact on many people as it has for me. One thing I might change is on the 'my approachability in deviantART' should be changed to 'my approachability on deviantART' instead. That is just my opinion and please I hope you find this helpful and keep creating beautiful stamps!
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:iconajinu-okami:
AJInu-Okami Featured By Owner May 2, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Ain't this the truth. :nod: I hate those that are just on here for how many watchers, kirbans (pageviews), people to date, and favs. They are not here to improve their art skills at all.
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:iconmintverdant:
MintVerdant Featured By Owner May 3, 2012
Same here.

Well, if I do end up getting that many of the above, I rather not let people down by not improving somehow.

Anyways, thanks for your insight.
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:iconajinu-okami:
AJInu-Okami Featured By Owner May 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
You're welcome :)
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Crimnor Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Great stamp.
Should I ever become a big deal around here or somewhere, I think it's really important to remember to not become indifferent about others.

One thing is however that if someone gets a really large amount of notes and questions, one might just simply not have time to answer them all :o
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
That's good to hear.

In that case, that someone would write up an FAQ to address all of them. Of course, he or she will still receive many notes anyway...

Nevertheless, thanks for your insight.
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AnarchisThinker Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2011
Also, the favourites, pageviews and watches doesn't really mean, at times, that the person actually has great art. At times, he could simply have had a great social network here, thus gaining him that. I usually draw my things: A friend of mine uses Zolrac's HTF Digiter. He ends up getting alot of comments patting him on the back about how seemingly good it is to them. I end up getting almost none, even before being the official 'open to critique' mindset kicked into my head. :P
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
What you said about the social network part sounds very true.

As for the critique part, in my experience, I usually have to seek someone I know and/or trust and ask him or her to do the critiquing.

Anyways, thanks for your insight.
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AnarchisThinker Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
Ah, I see.

And I'm glad I could give my insight on this. :meow:
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CrimsonPaw Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011  Student General Artist
I'd say it's a mixed bag.
I'm very good friends with artists that are considered "popular," and like I said, we are very good friends. They are welcoming people and respond to a lot of mail when they can. They act just like people and not like a popular snob, and we get along as friends do.
I think the deviants that are "popular" and don't respond to mail are good people, too. I don't think they're assholes or ignoring "lesser" deviants, I think they are just really busy with their lives and simply cannot answer to all mail. I've found that a lot of those deviants already have a pre-set FAQ or something similar to answer any guidance/advice questions if they don't have time to answer them all repeatedly each and every day. People need to keep in mind that, outside of deviantART, the popular artists also have lives, such as a family and job.
I don't think popularity should be measured in art quality, anyways. I see "popular" artists sometimes and I am baffled as how they became so popular in the first place, because there is really nothing special about their works and/or styles. That being said, I don't think opinions/advice from "popular" devaints should be regarded any higher than an opinion from any one else, as they are just people like anyone else on this site. :aww:
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2011
First of all, apologies for the delay of my response.

Second, I can say the same thing also for my experience.

Third, I do agree with the last sentence you provided here.

Nevertheless, thanks so much for your very thoughtful reply. I had that running in my mind for quite some time.
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SaloGuardione Featured By Owner May 31, 2011  Student General Artist
[link] FEATURED!
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner May 31, 2011
Wow, thanks so much! ^^
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SaloGuardione Featured By Owner May 31, 2011  Student General Artist
You are welcome ^^ Please support the cause :3!
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erimeow14 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
I totally agree with this (:
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
That's cool :)
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Devious227 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Personally I believe that only the opinions of those that matter to you and that you KNOW are going to be honest with you should be the ones that count, regardless of the numbers at the top of the page...

But that's just me.
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2011
I see.

Thanks for your input.
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Vanderstorme Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011  Professional General Artist
that. is awesome.
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2011
Yes it is.
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AndrogynousOne Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
idk what sort of experiences your having with these top peeps but they never respond to any of my questions and im sick of it so i remove them from my watch and encourage other who i know watch them to do the same. why should we give them the time of day that they wont give us?
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mrm64 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
...lol replying to a comment that is 3 years old but, I totally agree and kicked some popular Devs to the curb cause i ain't gonna waste my time with them if they can't even say "Thank you!". I mean really, some are just downright annoying. You have some people who are excellent artists who never communicate with their watchers, and I understand the high volume of messages they get, but I'll be dipped in butter before I ever NOT respond to a meaningful comment on my page in a reasonable time. :m Typing a "Thank you so much!" takes about 7 seconds or less, you know?
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AndrogynousOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Amen
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011
To be fair, I usually browse all rules and FAQs about asking for help from "popular" deviants that I don't know personally before actually contacting him or her. In doing so, I was able to contact or even converse with some of them pretty well...

To be honest, I do share some of your sentiments that you're having against "popular" deviants who simply don't respond to even their watchers at all...
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AndrogynousOne Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yea... i guess ive just yet to be so fortunate
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Carnelibun Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A lot of bigger and more widely recognized deviants seem to take on a pretty negative standpoint thanks to this recognition, from what I've seen, therein becoming a lot less approachable because they're all high about themselves and their alleged greatness.

Thankfully not all are like that. I've gotten to know some pretty great people in the whole "fame and glory" bracket over the years, and respectable artists openly giving away tips on how to improve.
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2011
I would more or less say the same thing right now.

Thanks for your insight.
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Netbug009 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2010  Student Writer
THANK YOU.

Geez, I'm not anywhere close to famous, and not even that talented, but people act like I'm going to eat them or something. X_X
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2010
I see. Well, thanks for your thoughtful comment.
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Kocoa Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2010  Student
This is a fantastic stamp.
I totally agree.

People are often nervous around those ten times more well known and
famous and/or with tons more pageviews than themselves.

I've found myself guilty of feeling this way around popular folks,
but when I found out that others felt this way around me I knew something
needed to be done.

So I stopped being nervous, spoke up to those I really admired, and you know what? They're just people. Just like anyone. Some of them were understandably too busy to reply, but many DID and replied with enthusiasm, even! I try to encourage everyone to be bolder now about this because in reality, there isn't any reason you should even BE afraid.
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010
Wow, I think you have provided an excellent piece of testimony on how to approach people who are much more "famous" than you and the consequences of doing so.

Thank you very much for your very thoughtful input.
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Kocoa Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010  Student
No problem c:
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RainHowlz Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2010
I have too many pageviews D: people don't approach me but theyre free to
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2010
Thanks for your thoughts.
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sonadowsex Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2010
im a girl dont tell eneybody but im 8 and i cant spell
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2010
As long as you keep quiet too...
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Faerie-StarV Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2010   General Artist
Tool late! Everyone already knows so sorry kid, your too young to be online. Wait until your thirteen to sign up for Deviantart.
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InvaderSTELLAR Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2010
Great stamp, I agree. I'm not popular but I have had several popular people talk with me. In fact the creator of the manga "Hollow Fields" was kind enough to comment on one of my pictures. So I agree. Not all popular artists are not unapproachable.
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2010
Almost forgot about you comment...

Anyways, the mere fact that you were able to hold a discussion with the creator definitely says something good on the matter of approachability.

Needless to say, sucking up without something to back it up almost never works.

Thanks for the insightful comment.
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InvaderSTELLAR Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2010
No problem. :)
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bringonthethunder Featured By Owner May 18, 2010
Thank you for creating this stamp, thank you so so much!!! Some people feel high page views or other such things directly impacts a persons personality and approachability. This says exactly what I feel I've been trying to say for quite some time but admittedly, I fummble over words at times!! *goes to use right away*
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner May 18, 2010
To be honest, I thought someone else had already created a stamp similar to this when I first made it and submitted it on dA. Despite this, I did it anyway.

Thank you very much for you genuine and kind words about the stamp. I believed you have felt the stamp's intended impact.

And you're welcome.
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bringonthethunder Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
<3
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In-The-Zone Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree here. Now while I'm not popular on this account, I do feel more people might be approaching me more with less pageviews, but on my other account I have made a poll about it before and quite a few felt I was 'too up there' to talk to me.

I really wish I can get rid of this, but I'm okay with having my pageviews out in the open.

I do my very best to reply to everyone, answer everyone and I am very friendly with others. Even journals up for discussion. I feel that this usually gives people the idea that I'm approachable.

But so many people do indeed feel intimidated by numbers. The way to tell if the person is worth talking to is watching how they respond to other deviants. Don't judge pageviews first. :)
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
Wow, you actually made a poll concerning this topic. Interesting, though not too surprising, that you got that kind of a result.

I think there was a function on dA to hide pageviews altogether at one point...

The fact that you are taking several methods to put yourself out in the open more (for lack of a better way to say it right now) definitely says something positive about you and your actions, even though it is not always apparent at first.

However, one must realize that there will always be a proportion of people who will be intimidated by numbers. How big or small the proportion will be may as well depend on how big or small he or she wants it to be - if (constructive and positive) action is taken (for the latter), of course...

Thanks for the very thoughtful comment.
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StormofThunder Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2011
There is an option to hide pageviews. :lol:
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In-The-Zone Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Of course! And yes, it's true, there will always be people who still feel intimidated regardless. Which is sad, but it happens.
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Kazeyasha Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2009
I agree. It's too bad such stats can't have a 'hidden' feature on devart for people who wish to keep them confidential. That'd solve a lot of popularity issues on devart I think with more people being more interactive and there would be less sucking up/monopolization of another person's popularity.
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MintVerdant Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2009
I know that some stats can be hidden (e.g. pageviews, watchlist, etc.). I do believe that most, if not all, of the obvious negative aspects associated with popularity can be resolved in the way you described.

However, the stats themselves can be misleading sometimes (e.g. a deviant can somehow "tweak" them to his or her choosing or that a deviant was once very, very active in the distant past but so no much in the present).

Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
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Kazeyasha Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2009
Your welcome :)

Really? I had no clue some stats could be hidden! I guess since devart's been upgrading a lot over the last few months then it's not so surprising. I had no clue though, I think that's cool.

Yeah, true. I agree, not all will go away but the most severe problems with popularity and stats should deteriorate with hidden stats [if people utilize these features that is]. It's true, stats are very misleading. Someone could have over 50,000+ pvs and not have a lot active watchers or close to none. I've seen this before too. I'd rather have a bunch of active watchers and friends than pvs anyday.
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boxno Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
For the most part, this stamp speaks the truth. There are a lot of really famous Deviants who are super open to questions and stuff like that...

but a lot of really popular ppl are not like that. I've seen some who never reply back to anything ppl ask or comment ; __ ; and that could be a put down to many ppl. Also there are popular ppl who only comment back to popular ppl...haha i guess it just depends.

I wish most ppl followed this stamp's message. 8D
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